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Dean



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:53 am    Post subject: Ballades - programmed music? Reply with quote

Chopin was against programmed music. However he was directly influenced by some specific ballades by Adam Mickiewicz when he wrote he's. What do you think?
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Pianoman1992



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I know he was against giving specific titles to his works, but that doesn't mean that he didn't have his own idea as to what his music sounded like.
I think the ballades are as close to programmed music as Chopin came. And I did see somewhere the specific stories the ballades tell...

Oh, and look up ballade on wikipedia: it says a ballade "refers to a one-movement musical piece with lyrical and dramatic narrative qualities." Ballades were afterall poems long before Chopin came around.
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wanderer



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pianoman1992 wrote:
Well, I know he was against giving specific titles to his works, but that doesn't mean that he didn't have his own idea as to what his music sounded like.
I think the ballades are as close to programmed music as Chopin came. And I did see somewhere the specific stories the ballades tell...

Oh, and look up ballade on wikipedia: it says a ballade "refers to a one-movement musical piece with lyrical and dramatic narrative qualities." Ballades were afterall poems long before Chopin came around.


Yes, that's true. Chopin made these ballades more than just a poem. It contains almost everything you want to be in. I didn't read those poems though! I just knew the general idea of those poems. They're not quite helpful in understanding the ballades.
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nocturne



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Ballades - programmed music? Reply with quote

Dean wrote:
Chopin was against programmed music. However he was directly influenced by some specific ballades by Adam Mickiewicz when he wrote he's. What do you think?


I don't believe it's a strict interpretation of the poems, but I won't go into that. I like to think the ballades are interpretations of the emotions themselves. Or interpretations of something much, much deeper... Twisted Evil
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